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I enjoyed the conversation, and want to follow up on one point:
One of the real strengths of the book as a kind of cultural road map is to take seriously the power of money and its incentives in driving the plot’s events, thus helping us ordinary people see the anchoring role of central banks and finance in any transition (i.e. ‘putting our money where our mouth is’). To whit, as recently as eight months ago, KSR was endorsing the carbon coin.